543 Paul Ganger: Reimagining Outdoor Retailer, Leading With Integrity, and Building Dreamland Safari Tours in Kanab, Utah

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543 Paul Ganger: Reimagining Outdoor Retailer, Leading With Integrity, and Building Dreamland Safari Tours in Kanab, Utah

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In this episode, Rick sits down with Paul Gagner, an outdoor industry veteran and co-owner of Dreamland Safari Tours. Paul’s four-decade career spans retail, sales rep life, and leadership roles at iconic outdoor brands, and his current work is helping guide the reimagined Outdoor Retailer show.

Show Notes

Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast — Episode 543

Paul Gagner: Reimagining Outdoor Retailer, Leading With Integrity, and Building Dreamland Safari Tours in Kanab, Utah

Welcome to the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast—where we share inspiring stories, thrilling adventures, and expert insights from leaders and legends across the outdoor adventure travel community.

In this episode, Rick sits down with Paul Gagner (outdoor industry veteran + co-owner of Dreamland Safari Tours in Kanab, Utah Dreamland Safari Tours+1). Paul’s four-decade career spans retail, sales rep life, and leadership roles at iconic outdoor brands—plus his current work helping guide the reimagined Outdoor Retailer show headed to Minneapolis, August 19–21, 2026. Outdoor Retailer+1

About Paul Gagner

Paul Gagner is a veteran outdoor industry leader and the co-owner (with his wife, Sunny Stroeer) of Dreamland Safari Tours, based in Kanab, Utah. Dreamland Safari Tours+1 Their company guides hiking, backpacking, scenic tours, and offers astrophotography experiences/workshops in the desert Southwest. Dreamland Safari Tours+1

Paul also co-leads the Outdoor Retailer Leadership Village—a stakeholder-led initiative shaping the reimagined national show in Minneapolis. Outdoor Retailer+1

What you’ll take away from this conversation

• Why trust is the real currency of outdoor retail + brand partnerships

• How “innovation” doesn’t have to mean reinventing everything—it can mean relentlessly improving what matters

• Why outdoor businesses (and trade shows) need to deliver actionable ideas people can take home and use immediately

• How guide businesses can thrive when they focus on transformation: getting people outside and watching what happens next

Links & resources

• Dreamland Safari Tours (Kanab, UT) Dreamland Safari Tours

• Dreamland Safari Tours — About Paul + Sunny Dreamland Safari Tours

• Dreamland Safari Tours — Intro to Astrophotography Workshop Dreamland Safari Tours

• Outdoor Retailer — Official site + 2026 Minneapolis dates (Aug 19–21, 2026) Outdoor Retailer

• Outdoor Retailer — Leadership Village + Garage Grown Gear collaboration announcement